Re: FreeBSD Security Survey



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Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 2:45 PM -0400 5/24/06, Allen wrote:

Did you just tell him to get another computer for each arch
to have as a build machine???

Being a broke college student I don't think that's something
I'd ever do to install updates on my boxes. I can't afford
another computer just to build updates when every other OS
I use does updates in another way....


If you are a college student with a few machines that
you work with, then you can afford some downtime.

Note that the person was talking about the problems of
doing source updates on TEN machines. If you own ten
machines, and if all of those ten machines must have zero
downtime and rock-solid reliability, then you really
have to find the money for an eleventh machine. That is
ACK. That's what I was talking about :)

At work we have roughly 900 Debian Linux servers, and frankly, the way
of upgrading those boxes is pretty easy (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade).
However, we still have build machines for custom packages and of course
test machines to test updates...

The point then is, of course, sometimes a buildworld is overkill and it
would be great to have an easier way of upgrading, but still you need
the "eleventh" machine for testing / reducing downtime / whatever.


"Pity the poor college student, with their personally-
owned data center of 50 machines split across five
different architectures." Uh, no. I won't. Anyone
who can afford that much hardware has more money than
I do!

"me too" ;-)

./Marian
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