Re: newbie with www user security problem
From: Ken Hawkins (ken_at_rosewoodblues.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:32:44 -0400 To: firstname.lastname@example.org
The box is secure that much i have found out. the only problems have
been with this email spamming. nothing in the tmp dirs out of the
ordinary and no missing files running scripts etc. I have changed
everyone passwords on the box. *'d the www password, ensured there is
no shell with the www user, etc.
i am in the process of upgrading the ports now and there are problems
(of course). the ports seem to have been mangled as the listing in /
var/db/ports does not match what i KNOW is running on the box. The
person i have inherited this from manually deleted from the /var/db/
ports to get some of the applications to re-install! gotta love that!
well here i come port fix hell! This is a production box and can't be
taken off line as of this moment so i am going to have to attempt on
the fly fixing / upgrading of the ports. i would love to wipe it but
it is just not a possibility right now.
thanks for all your help and insight. even those of you who tried to
tell me I was lost... :)
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:04 AM, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 04:54:10PM +0200, email@example.com
>> If the box in question was local secure, you don't have to worry
>> that much.
> Correct of course, but seeing as the OP admitted to not knowing a
> lot about
> the administration of this machine, I don't think local security
> was very
>> If it's a long time since you've updated your base, are sloppy
>> with passwords
>> on the box in question, haven't updated your daemons/setuid
>> packages in weeks,
>> then the box should be concidered a total loss.
>> Just think in terms as "what are the possible things I could do if
>> my UID were
> There might be some less obvious things, especially if the base OS is
> as far behind as the phpBB installation.
>> I for example have webservers running in chroot, on a partition
>> that is
>> nosuid, and starred out password for the user 'www'. The thing you
>> describing happens sometimes because users do not update there
>> either. I'm not affraid since the kiddo would have the same access
>> than a
>> customer, which I cannot trust either. If you don't know the box
>> IS secure,
>> it isn't, there is a lot of work involved in keeping things like this
>> "under controle".
> Totally true, and good advice for setting up access for customers /
> Coughlin's law: never show surprise, never lose your cool.
> -- Cocktail
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