Re: FW: Adding OpenBSD sudo to the FreeBSD base system?

From: Poul-Henning Kamp (phk_at_phk.freebsd.dk)
Date: 07/21/05

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    To: Stephen Major <smajor@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:05:49 +0200
    
    

    In message <42dfd7c8.619f0abe.46ed.ffffca84@mx.gmail.com>, Stephen Major writes:

    >I really do not agree with adding it to the base system.

    If sudo imported into the system doesn't do any more damage than
    the filesystem space consumed, then I really cannot see any harm
    being done.

    If it were configured to DTRT (probably check membership the
    wheel group ?) I still can't see the problem.

    If sudo forces everybody to edit a config file, then there is
    a problem, but I seriously doubt that is the case.

    There are a lot of wise people who say that UNIX has stagnated
    for 20 of the thirty years it has existed, and sometimes I'm
    starting to see things from that side.

    One things that increasingly irritates me is that in UNIX it takes
    60 lines to open a TCP connection because nobody could agree to
    adding a "nopen()" function to libc which would encapsulate
    those 60 lines of code.

    I see the same "spirit" at work here:

            "Dennis and Ken didn't approve of sudo, it is not documented
            in any POSIX_MISTAKE, and I never got around to get used
            to use it, so of course we cannot let it into FreeBSD!"

    Minimalism is good, but taken it to far is suicidal.

    Commit it!

    -- 
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