RE: [Freebsd-security] Re: Possible compromise ?

From: Remko Lodder (remko_at_elvandar.org)
Date: 01/27/04

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    To: "Peter Rosa" <prosa@pro.sk>, "Mark Ogden" <ogden@eng.utah.edu>
    Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:50:43 +0100
    
    

    Yeah but if you are uncertain about your own box my VERY STRONG advise
    is that you reinstall. IF your host is indeed owned, then you are a lot
    further away then just reinstalling, god knows what issues can arrise
    when a cracker exploits the system to do bogus tasks..

    Then i say: Too bad for your time, sorry but it's like that

    --
    Kind regards,
    Remko Lodder
    Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
    www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
    hackerscene
    -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    Van: Peter Rosa [mailto:prosa@pro.sk]
    Verzonden: dinsdag 27 januari 2004 21:46
    Aan: Remko Lodder; Mark Ogden
    CC: freebsd-security@freebsd.org
    Onderwerp: Re: [Freebsd-security] Re: Possible compromise ?
    Yes, but it is the way I wouldn't like to go. Because of sooo much time :-(
    PR
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Remko Lodder" <remko@elvandar.org>
    To: "Mark Ogden" <ogden@eng.utah.edu>; "Peter Rosa" <prosa@pro.sk>
    Cc: <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:42 PM
    Subject: RE: [Freebsd-security] Re: Possible compromise ?
    > that only works when you are presuming that the host was not hacked
    already
    > because i would clear those logs when i hacked a system :)
    >
    > but indeed it's a try,
    >
    > If you remain unsure, it is best to reinstall the system to be sure that a
    > fresh
    > and newly updated (yeah update it when installed :)) system is not
    > compromised at that
    > time..
    >
    > loads of work, but it gives you some relief to know that it's clean.
    >
    > GoodLuck!
    >
    > --
    >
    > Kind regards,
    >
    > Remko Lodder
    > Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
    > www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
    > hackerscene
    >
    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: freebsd-security-bounces@lists.elvandar.org
    > [mailto:freebsd-security-bounces@lists.elvandar.org]Namens Mark Ogden
    > Verzonden: dinsdag 27 januari 2004 21:28
    > Aan: Peter Rosa
    > CC: freebsd-security@freebsd.org
    > Onderwerp: [Freebsd-security] Re: Possible compromise ?
    >
    >
    > Peter Rosa on Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 09:23:45PM +0100 wrote:
    > > OK, sorry for unclear previous message.
    > >
    > > In the past, one man teached me the FreeBSD basics and also installed my
    > > gateway. In that time, I was not able to install and setup FreeBSD by
    > > myself. He left there some holes - e.g. open virtual consoles, unset
    > > firewall, etc. As the time went, I learned a lot about Unixes and
    FreeBSD
    > > and I tried to setup my own firewall, install and setup some programs
    > (with
    > > big help of this and Questions lists, manpages and other books).
    > >
    > > When I tried to setup more security on that system, except other things,
    I
    > > disabled all virtual tty's, because there is no need to connect to this
    > > machine remotelly (it's located 5 steps from my desk). In the past, that
    > man
    > > connected to my system remotely from various IPs.
    > >
    > > Now, when I cat /var/log/lastlog, in the very bottom of the file, I can
    > read
    > > some connects from remote machines to ttyp0 and ttyp1.
    >
    > take a look at the /var/log/auth.log, it will show you everyone that
    > remote connected and was denied.
    >
    > -Mark
    >
    > >It's impossible for
    > > me to retrieve connection dates from that file. Of course, I read man
    > last,
    > > man wtmp, etc., but there is nothing about /var/log/lastlog file.
    > >
    > > May be, that lines was added in the deep past, when the machine was
    open.
    > > But may be, it was done in few previous days...
    > >
    > > I know, if my machine was compromised, it is impossible to believe in
    > > anything on that machine (also kernel, sources). So, are there some
    other
    > > ways to get information about connection dates?
    > >
    > > Peter Rosa
    > >
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