Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.
From: Harry Tabak (htabak@quadtelecom.com)
Date: 12/28/02
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:16:06 -0500 From: Harry Tabak <htabak@quadtelecom.com> To: Chuck Rock <carock@epcusa.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.
> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:19:32 -0600 (CST)
> From: Chuck Rock <carock@epcusa.com>
> To: Harry Tabak <htabak@quadtelecom.com>
> CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG
>
> There's not much you can do but what you already are doing. Complain.
>
> You complain to the people using the software, and if they can't
> configure it, they will probably stop using it if they care.
I know only one user, that is how I discovered the problem. I have no
way of identifying other users. That frightens me.
>
> You complain to the people that actually wrote the software. Usually found
> in the source code and such.
Unfortunately, the author hasn't replied to my complaints yet. Possibly
she has taken a holiday.
>
> You can try to complain to FreeBSD Ports, but removing this goes against
> the very nature of "Open Source" Good or bad, there's not much to convince
> people not to distribute a piece of software that's free and
> open.
There is a significant difference between this port and the others. My
other ports at worst only harm the intended user when things go wrong.
This port harms random and anonymous individuals. I don't believe that
FreeBSD redistributes spamming software or list managers that don't
provide the proper opt-in safeguards by default.
I can't really stop the Spambouncer people from shouting "fire" from
their own website -- freedom of speech and all that. But should FreeBSD
act as an amplifier.
> Everyone knows when they install these softwares that you do so at
> your own risk. If your ISP is spending money to support problems caused by
> it's use and they have control over it, they will probably stop using
> it. Most ISP's care about expenses, so you can bet if it's not worth
> using, they will eventually stop.
>
> If you have any capacity, you can attempt to fix the program, and submit
> it to the author for distribution. This is how Open Source works.
>
I will be happy to fix it, the author may not like my philosophy. I
believe in Free Speech and a working internet mail system. I would
attempt to minimize "false positives", and require testing. But as I
said earlier, the author doesn't respond. Even if the software is
adjusted, it will be impossible to recall all the older versions.
> If people would stop sending spam or harden their computers connected to
> the Internet to keep from sending spam accidentally, there would be no
> need for this software either. Might as well wish for world peace though.
>
amen. Unfortuately, good people are making a bad situation even worse
by "hip-shooting".
> Chuck
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