Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip

From: Benjamin Krueger (benjamin@macguire.net)
Date: 04/19/02 

Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:08:46 -0700
From: Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@macguire.net>
To: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>

* Nate Williams (nate@yogotech.com) [020418 18:03]:
> > FreeBSD currently does not enable easy maintainance between critical release
> > points for large server environments. Using cvsup to maintain source builds
> > for environments like these ( say 400 servers or more ) is not only
> > unacceptable without an on staff developer and release engineer, it is
> > infeasible.
> >
> > For those of you who would be quick to note that "Corporations with
> > 400 servers should be able to afford a developer and release engineer"
> > please note that 400 NT, Solaris, AIX, or HP-UX servers can be
> > maintained by a small team of administrators, and do not require these
> > extra resources.
>
> So, for 400 NT, Solaris, AIX, or HP-UX servers you allow a small team,
> and for FreeBSD you don't even allow a single engineer? Seems kind of a
> double standard.
>
> And as a long-time administrator, I disagree that FreeBSD is more
> difficult to maintain releases across systems. I've done Ultrix, SunOS,
> Solaris, FreeBSD, and (ack!) Linux, and I find that FreeBSD is second to
> Solaris, but barely so.
>
> However, Solaris doesn't even provide anything remotely close to what
> Brett is asking, and they're getting paid alot for the OS than FreeBSD
> is getting paid.
>
> Nate

I think you misunderstood. I meant you don't need release engineers for
any of the above, only FreeBSD. FreeBSD might be great, but it doesn't admin
itself yet. ;) Consider 4 sysadmins, and 2 release engineers for FreeBSD, as
opposed to just 4 sysadmins for NT / Solaris / AIX / HP-UX. 

-- 
Benjamin Krueger
"Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about."
- Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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