Re: [fw-wiz] Firewalls that generate new packets..



Marcus: Not that I have tons to add to the discussion, but I have to ask
logically: If TCP Sequence numbers did NOT make a difference then why
do we go to so much trouble in the TCP stack to make them difficult to
predict?

Darden, Patrick S. wrote:

Marcus J. Ranum



The hard thing I had to wrap my brain around was the
observation that between a router+ACLs combined
with the state that is held in the TCP stack of the
target, you've got exactly the same thing (and often
quite a bit better!) than a "stateful" firewall.


I respecfully disagree for all the reasons I have outlined
before.... Sum: tcp sequence #s make a difference.

--Patrick Darden
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