Re: [fw-wiz] The home user problem returns

From: Antonomasia (ant_at_notatla.org.uk)
Date: 09/08/05

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    To: mason@schmitt.ca, firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com
    Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:29:36 +0100
    
    

    From: mason@schmitt.ca

    Those sound like good ideas.
                                                                              
    > Getting away from people oriented approaches now. I'm planning to setup a
    > "leper colony" (kudos to whomever coined that term. I also hope I'm not
    > offending anyone...). The idea is simply to quarantine obviously infected
    > machines from the rest of our network, and preferably from other members

    There should be a charge for each occurrance of this. Give it a more acceptable
    name and teach the customers it's a service like towing their car out of a ditch.

    > immediately upon seeing spam from a spam zombie - even if
    > the zombie is attempting to relay through our smarthost
    > as opposed to the usual direct-to-mx spam zombie activity.

    That should be easy to detect according to Richard Clayton.
             http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rnc1/extrusion.pdf
    see also http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rnc1/incoming.pdf

    And in another mail:
    > Marcus and most of the rest of you, please keep preaching solid security
    > principles to businesses and governments,

    On a good day they pay twice as much attention as the home users.

    I could make a game of writing down things that happen at work and people
    guessing which ones are true.

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