RE: [fw-wiz] Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd

From: Stetser Dan Contr Det 4/LAN (daniel.stetser.ctr_at_kaenapt.af.mil)
Date: 06/21/05

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    To: Firewal Wizards <firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:58:12 -1000

    The Constitution guarentees the right to arm bears doesn't it?

    <g>

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Adam Shostack [mailto:adam@homeport.org]
    Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:57 AM
    To: Marcus J. Ranum
    Cc: Behm, Jeffrey L.; David Lang; Firewal Wizards
    Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd

    On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:06:01PM -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
    | Behm, Jeffrey L. wrote:
    | >You don't gotta outrun the bear, just
    | >the guy next to you.
    |
    | That's the strategy that's gotten us where we are today.
    |
    | It works great assuming the bear count remains a constant and the
    | bears don't suddenly all come equipped with overdrive. It also assumes
    | that bears exercise reason in selecting their targets. Next-gen
    | malware breaks all of those assumptions.

    I like to say that that works only until bears get machine guns.

    Adam
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