RE: [fw-wiz] Re: Ethics, morality, and mental retardation

From: Miha Vitorovic (mvitorovic_at_nil.si)
Date: 11/03/04

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    To: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@ranum.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:33:37 +0100

    "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@ranum.com> wrote on 03.11.2004 15:28:33:

    > Miha Vitorovic wrote:
    > >I see this point come up again and again throughout this thread.
    "Mitnik
    > >should choose another line of work, for me, _the security expert_, to
    be
    > >happy." Why?

    Snipped to save eletronic trees.

    >
    > I think you're probably projecting your own motives, then. Hopefully
    > my response has helped explain some of the motivation behind
    > at least a few of our views. Yes, the desire for respect fundamentally
    > boils down to egotism - but when you're talking about whether
    > an entire *industry* is respected, then it's more an issue of
    > efficiency. Imagine if every time you went to a restaurant, you

    Well,

    I must say that I agree with most of what you said, and I think to some
    extent, we are both right - we just draw the line differently. Basically
    what bothered me the most with the whole thread was the lack of rational
    though, and the tone of the whole debate. People were throwing words like
    "ethics" and "morality" around like frisbees, and it all more resembled a
    witch hunt than a civilised debate. And the level was degrading rapidly.
    It was like watching Jerry Springer; we had this ex-criminal on the stage
    [well, not really, more like a cardboard cut-out], and people were
    grabbing the mike, righteously shouting things like "fraud!!!",
    "moron!!!!", "thief!!!!". Well, you know the drill...

    That's all I wanted to say. I guess I'll go back to lurking quietly on the
    list again.

    Miha Vitorovic
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