RE: [fw-wiz] Re: Ethics, morality, and mental retardation

From: Miha Vitorovic (mvitorovic_at_nil.si)
Date: 11/02/04

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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:44:19 +0100

    > I am concerned by your argument that a criminal should be able
    > to profit from their crime instead of being forced to find another
    > way to make a living. Mr. Mitnik could make a living selling cars,
    > for example. I also think that you are off when describing Mr.
    > Ranum as a one-trick pony. I suspect that he would have been quite
    > successful in other businesses (though I don't envision him selling
    > cars--maybe raising trick ponies).

    I see this point come up again and again throughout this thread. "Mitnik
    should choose another line of work, for me, _the security expert_, to be
    happy." Why? Why don't we all start selling cars? Because we don't want
    to. But Mitnik has to? Why? Yes, a criminal looses his rights when he is
    in jail, but he gets them back when he does his time. Including the right
    to have a job he likes, not a job someone else thinks he ought to have.

    And another thing I see in most of the letters is: "My security advice is
    just as good as Mitnik's." Which to me, also means, "Well, obviously then,
    his advice is just as good as yours.", but the authors somehow think that
    theirs is better. And, some of them are right. But, all of them? Hmm...

    And, again and again, in the end it comes down to money. "Hey, he's making
    money! Stop him! That's money I was supposed to make!" But, people with
    money choose to give it to him. Again, it's their money, they can give it
    to anyone they like.

    What I'm trying to say is, that so far, I haven't seen a single point that
    would convince me that having Mitnik as a speaker is a bad thing. But I
    have seen an awful lot of bruised egos.

    Party on,

    Miha Vitorovic
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