Re: [fw-wiz] Re: Ethics, morality and the industry

From: Paul Foster (Paul.Foster_at_dmtsystems.net)
Date: 10/29/04

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    To: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@ranum.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:28:37 +1000

    Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
    > Paul Foster wrote:
    >
    >>Hopefully we can convince others to use their skill productively rather than becoming 'the enemy'.
    >
    >
    > How? By paying clowns with criminal records $15,000/keynote to gloat
    > about how clever they are? How exactly is that going to convince today's
    > script kiddie that being 3l33t doesn't pay?

    Do script kiddies attend these conferences? I would think not, perhaps
    security professionals who could use some insight into the mind of
    resourceful and clever attackers?

    My hope was likely naive, however a convicted criminal talking about the
    horrors of prison could be a good deterrent for the kiddies or more
    sophisticated folk out there. In many countries juvenile offenders are
    often taken to high security prisons to meet with inmates. I wouldn't
    expect many 'crackers' to be involved in these programs however.

    Mitnick is good at what he does, and I would guess he's asked himself a
    few times "Why didn't I start consulting instead of breaking the law?"

    -PF
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