Re: [fw-wiz] Re: Flawed Surveys [was: VPN endpoints] (Paul D. Robertson)

From: Paul D. Robertson (paul_at_compuwar.net)
Date: 09/03/04

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    To: Abe Singer <abe@sdsc.edu>
    Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:32:57 -0400 (EDT)
    
    

    On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Abe Singer wrote:

    > What are some hypotheses about computer security? How should we go about
    > testing them? What kind of metrics would we like to see? Which methods
    > in Stats 101 should we use to compute them? What data do we need to
    > compute them? Where and how do we get the data?

    I think "what metrics would we like to see" is a good starting question.
    Unfortunately, there are hundreds of them!

    > But, the other problem is that it's just not sexy or fun. A lot of this
    > type of work is drudgery -- looking up data, putting it into tables,
    > normalizing the data, doing some math, etc. Not nearly as much fun as
    > building a skin an MP3 player, or yet another log parser, or setting up
    > a blog on the web server, or installing linux on a c64...

    I think it's worse than that, I think it's almost impossible to get the
    actual data- which would really be doing it "right," so we're left with
    surveys and sampling and all the other "as good as we'll get for now"
    stuff.

    Things I'd like a measure of include:
    Number of attempts insiders make to escalate priv.
    Number of successful insider intrusions.
    Number of times "bad" traffic transits a firewall capable of blocking it.
    Amount of extortion by former employees.
    Amount of sabotage by former employees.
    Percentage of users who *wouldn't* share their credentials for a
    pen/candy bar/whim.
    Amount of time doing non-work related Internet activity per average
    employee, per career type.

    There's hundreds more, but those would all be good ones.

    Paul
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