[fw-wiz] Re: Flawed Surveys [was: VPN endpoints]

From: Marcus J. Ranum (mjr_at_ranum.com)
Date: 09/01/04

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    To: "Paul D. Robertson" <paul@compuwar.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:11:30 -0400

    Paul D. Robertson wrote:
    >I've often used the results of non-randomized, non-blinded surveys to
    >approximate my risk. It's often worked well. Just because it can go
    >wrong doesn't mean it has to.

    People used the theory that Earth was in the center of the solar
    system for thousands of years. It often worked well. Just because
    it was wrong didn't really matter a whole lot, either, until they
    started trying to use that theory for actual problem-solving
    instead of just painting cool stuff on temple walls.

    When "doing it right" is just a small amount harder than "doing
    it wrong" the excuse "I like doing it wrong" is really, really weak.

    mjr.

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