Re: [fw-wiz] VPN endpoints

From: Paul D. Robertson (paul_at_compuwar.net)
Date: 08/30/04

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    To: Rodel Collado Urani <sparc@ucomputer.org>
    Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:17:42 -0400 (EDT)
    
    

    On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Rodel Collado Urani wrote:

    > hello,

    Hi,

    >
    > VPN is secure by default and it uses several encryption algorithm to
    > satisfy the endpoint security every administrator and endusers is looking
    > for. As long as it is within the VPN jurisdiction (i mean the client

    This is a common misconception. VPNs are not secure by default,
    implementation and architecture have a lot to do with security for VPNs,
    simply adding encryption doesn't add security, it adds a bunch of
    disciplines that need to be considered, like key handling and active
    enforcement of an encryption boundary.

    Key management is *especially* important- in LAN to LAN VPNs, it's easy to
    keep key control limited to those who are trained to handle it well, in
    node-to-LAN VPNs, the keys are under physical and often logical control of
    your dumbest user.

    > and server who are accessing the service) the communication cannot be
    > easily be compromised (it may take long to get that) because the data
    > are encrypted while traversing the unsecured public internet. Also consider
    > what types of service or protocols are you going to employ there are
    > like L2TP, PPTP from Microsoft, IPSec VPNs and the new one which is the
    > SSL VPN where its elimates hassles on part of the Security Admin (whoever
    > is in-charge in your organization) to configure the vpn client because
    > lots of internet browsers has now have their own SSL embedded in it.

    The "hassle" of configuring things is often what separates a safe network
    from one which is easily compromised by an attacker with the same default
    configuration as a legitimate user. It also often makes a social
    engineering vector more difficult to obtain.

    > The question must be like this, is the security still remains if the
    > message or data transmitted is still secure when it goes out of the VPN
    > server? Like when you transfer it to your PC or any machine that is already
    > out of the VPN jurisdiction. Absolutely NOT! unless you have implemented
    > an OpenSecurity Infrastructure (OSI) that will totally secure by encrypting
    > all data transmitting in (your LAN) and out (that is the use of VPN)
    > of your network.

    Adding more encryption doesn't add more security automatically. Adding
    more nodes in the group that must have keys _increases_ your risk in most
    situations.

    > Actually, I coined OSI ;-) as an implementation of distinct security
    > techniques and several processes particularly in protecting the inter-

    Well, stop overloading already used abbreviations. It's a bad practice.

    >
    > network. Meaning adept in the disposal of security components such us
    > encryption, PKI, openPGP, software/hardware firewall, antivirus software
    > that will make sure it will guarantee the protection of your data wherever
    > it goes. ;-)

    If the data "goes" somewhere, you can't guarantee its protection, you can
    only reduce the risk of compromise. Adding components without a sound
    architecture doesn't decrease risk. Adding complex software often
    increases risk.

    Paul
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