Re: [fw-wiz] VPN endpoints
From: Paul D. Robertson (paul_at_compuwar.net)
Date: 08/30/04
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To: Rodel Collado Urani <sparc@ucomputer.org> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:17:42 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Rodel Collado Urani wrote:
> hello,
Hi,
>
> VPN is secure by default and it uses several encryption algorithm to
> satisfy the endpoint security every administrator and endusers is looking
> for. As long as it is within the VPN jurisdiction (i mean the client
This is a common misconception. VPNs are not secure by default,
implementation and architecture have a lot to do with security for VPNs,
simply adding encryption doesn't add security, it adds a bunch of
disciplines that need to be considered, like key handling and active
enforcement of an encryption boundary.
Key management is *especially* important- in LAN to LAN VPNs, it's easy to
keep key control limited to those who are trained to handle it well, in
node-to-LAN VPNs, the keys are under physical and often logical control of
your dumbest user.
> and server who are accessing the service) the communication cannot be
> easily be compromised (it may take long to get that) because the data
> are encrypted while traversing the unsecured public internet. Also consider
> what types of service or protocols are you going to employ there are
> like L2TP, PPTP from Microsoft, IPSec VPNs and the new one which is the
> SSL VPN where its elimates hassles on part of the Security Admin (whoever
> is in-charge in your organization) to configure the vpn client because
> lots of internet browsers has now have their own SSL embedded in it.
The "hassle" of configuring things is often what separates a safe network
from one which is easily compromised by an attacker with the same default
configuration as a legitimate user. It also often makes a social
engineering vector more difficult to obtain.
> The question must be like this, is the security still remains if the
> message or data transmitted is still secure when it goes out of the VPN
> server? Like when you transfer it to your PC or any machine that is already
> out of the VPN jurisdiction. Absolutely NOT! unless you have implemented
> an OpenSecurity Infrastructure (OSI) that will totally secure by encrypting
> all data transmitting in (your LAN) and out (that is the use of VPN)
> of your network.
Adding more encryption doesn't add more security automatically. Adding
more nodes in the group that must have keys _increases_ your risk in most
situations.
> Actually, I coined OSI ;-) as an implementation of distinct security
> techniques and several processes particularly in protecting the inter-
Well, stop overloading already used abbreviations. It's a bad practice.
>
> network. Meaning adept in the disposal of security components such us
> encryption, PKI, openPGP, software/hardware firewall, antivirus software
> that will make sure it will guarantee the protection of your data wherever
> it goes. ;-)
If the data "goes" somewhere, you can't guarantee its protection, you can
only reduce the risk of compromise. Adding components without a sound
architecture doesn't decrease risk. Adding complex software often
increases risk.
Paul
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