RE: [fw-wiz] VPN endpoints

From: anyluser (anyluser_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 08/25/04

  • Next message: Mason Schmitt: "Re: [fw-wiz] VPN endpoints"
    To: hermit921@yahoo.com
    Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
    
    

     
    Generally speaking since you have no control over the
    clients they should be treated as trusted but hostile.
     Sounds like an oxymoron doesn’t it? It is!

    On the one hand you have a service to provide. On the
    other, when (not if) one client gets infected the VPN
    connection will be an ingress for propogation within
    your LAN. The name of the game becomes mitigation,
    aka acceptable risk.

    Your best bet (IMHO) would be to put the VPN endpoint
    within your DMZ and then set up some rules that will
    only allow the type of traffic that the clients need
    to go from DMZ-LAN or DMZ-DMZ.

    As a simplified example, if the users only need HTTP
    access to an intranet, the port 80 would be the only
    thing that traverses the DMZ to the server.
    Everything else, NBT especially, would be denied.

    In the same example you could even limit HTTP from the
    VPN server to the Intranet server only, to secure
    things even further.

    The best thing you could do is to audit -exactly- what
    the VPN users and give them exactly that and nothing
    more. Every port you open between your LAN and DMZ is
    another ingress point for stuff that will make you
    have to come in on weekends.

     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: firewall-wizards-admin@honor.icsalabs.com
    [mailto:firewall-wizards-admin@honor.icsalabs.com] On
    Behalf Of hermit921
    Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:37 PM
    To: firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com
    Subject: [fw-wiz] VPN endpoints

    We are planning to put a VPN endpoint at our site for
    remote access. We know nothing about the remote
    client computers, we just provide an authentication
    mechanism for the users. The question concerns where
    we put the VPN endpoint on our network.

    I figure it this way: 2 VPN device interfaces, either
    of which can go outside the firewall, on a DMZ, or
    inside the firewall. That gives us 9 possible
    arrangements, some of which are ridiculous, but fun to
    consider. We came down to two configurations.

    One approach is putting the internal interface on a
    DMZ. The other approach is to have the VPN bypass the
    firewall entirely. I am looking for advice on which
    approach is better, and reasons why.

    hermit921

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