Re: [fw-wiz] I wonder, how to test..

From: Vinicius Moreira Mello (
Date: 07/31/04

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    Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:32:20 -0300

    On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Meindert Uitman wrote:
    >Hi list,
    >As a regular reader of this list, and (amongst many other tasks)
    >responsible for security at our company, I wonder. I've taken most
    >measures to make our buisiness secure. It's all on a small scale,
    >everything runs well, but every now and then the tiny hairs on the back
    >of my head make me wonder how secure it all is. Yes, webservers are
    >locked down, are in DMZ, only http permitted, SQL on inside via data
    >layers, only nessesary ports between DMZ and inside; this production
    >environment is colocated, office is connected via PIX to PIX vpn,
    >restricted access to this vpn, etc.


    When you say your servers are locked down I think it's implied that
    you've done some basic vulnerability scanning and port/protocol mapping.

    Now I see two possibilities:

    1) Internally locking down the servers (if they aren't already):

    A good approach is to locally lock down your systems against local
    users. Even if the servers don't have local users and you external
    services are secure, it protects the servers from your indiscipline and
    some other potencial threats, such as bad programmed CGIs. With local
    systems locked down it would be much harder for an attacker to get
    administrator's privileges if he managed to execute code with webserver
    user privileges, for example.

    On Unix systems you could remove setid bits from privileged binaries,
    set special permissions for some very particular groups to run some
    tasks, patch syslog and crontab systems to run with decreased
    privileges, mount world-writable directories as non-executable, prevent
    filesystems from being umonted, firewall rules from being flushed, set a
    binary system integrity checker, etc.

    And some other measures, like chrooting daemons, running them with
    decreased privileges, building a central logging infrastructure,
    reliably syncronizing clocks, etc (again, if it's already done).

    2) Imagine attack scenarios

    Since you've verified that your systems are individually, internally and
    externally secure itīs time to look for trust relationships between your
    servers and networks. Look if snooped passwords wouldn't lead to
    server/internal systems access, webpage/database/intranet access. If
    local compromised systems wouldn't lead access to other parts of your
    networks. Recheck VPN trust relations.

    CERT' tech tips addresses various system and network hardening

    Also a very good paper is Mixter's "Protecting against the unknown" that
    addresses various security concerns in a broad and preventive way:

    >Are there any low cost means / tools out there to verify that what i
    >have done so far is reasonable proof?

    You've reached a stage that automatic tools can't give you a reliable
    approach of your security state. It's time to review your infrastructure
    by yourself or by contracting third part penetration test service if
    your core business security requires it.

    firewall-wizards mailing list

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