Re: [fw-wiz] I wonder, how to test..

From: Paul D. Robertson (paul_at_compuwar.net)
Date: 07/30/04

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    To: Meindert Uitman <meindert.uitman@avic.nl>
    Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:30:45 -0400 (EDT)
    
    

    On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Meindert Uitman wrote:

    > Hi list,
    > As a regular reader of this list, and (amongst many other tasks)
    > responsible for security at our company, I wonder. I've taken most
    > measures to make our buisiness secure. It's all on a small scale,
    > everything runs well, but every now and then the tiny hairs on the back
    > of my head make me wonder how secure it all is. Yes, webservers are
    > locked down, are in DMZ, only http permitted, SQL on inside via data
    > layers, only nessesary ports between DMZ and inside; this production
    > environment is colocated, office is connected via PIX to PIX vpn,
    > restricted access to this vpn, etc.

    Sounds pretty reasonable so far...

    >
    > Are there any low cost means / tools out there to verify that what i
    > have done so far is reasonable proof?

    "Proof" is a bad word, as it tends to draw absolute lines, and
    unfortunately, security is really about probability. You can do a lot,
    but you could get one thing wrong, and it could sink you- the real
    question is have you done all that's reasonably prudent? Have you
    mitigated the biggest risks you face in the most cost-effective manner.
    For that, it takes a good understanding of threat rates, vulnerability
    prevalence, and costs. A "tool" can tell you how well you've implemented
    your controls, and perhaps indicate where controls haven't been
    implemented- so it can take the vulnerability portion of the equation, but
    it really can't do the other two.

    Testing with vulnerability scanners, port mappers, etc. will, as others
    have pointed out, give you an idea of the common exposures, which
    generally equate to the highest potential risks, but they certainly can't
    tell you the entire picture. That takes knowledge and information, and
    will change over time.

    Test what you can, monitor what you can, and validate/verify by looking at
    common patterns and see how you've faired historically. That won't give
    you a huge relief gap you're looking for, but what you're looking for
    really isn't cheap to do right.

    Paul
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