RE: [fw-wiz] Authenticated VS Anonymous in a secure Zone

From: Roger Barbeau (r_barbeau_at_videotron.ca)
Date: 05/17/04

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    Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:47:06 -0400
    
    

    Thanks Paul and Brandon, your answers are in the same way as I figure the
    solution should be, two level of security, anonymous and authenticated
    should require two separate zones (DMZ).

    But my problem is that I don't have any "Industry Best Practices" to enforce
    the orientation that we want to take (Two Zone).

    Is anyone know a place were can I get those kind of "Best Practices"?

    Regards,

    Roger Barbeau
    CCDA, CISSP, MCSE
    Email: rbarbeau@lgs.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Fetch, Brandon [mailto:BFetch@texpac.com]
    Sent: May 14, 2004 4:12 PM
    To: 'Roger Barbeau'
    Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] Authenticated VS Anonymous in a secure Zone

    Roger,
    I can't say explicitly there will be a security concern, but what are the
    expectations of the authenticated system? If there were an expectation and
    presumption of a more secure transaction with that system, I'd take all
    necessary precautions to ensure this; which would mean physically or
    logically separating them.

    I can't say for certain if this is possible in your scenario but perhaps
    providing for a two DMZ setup - one for anonymous and the other for
    authenticated traffic.

    One thing for a security person to keep in mind is what would a potential
    hacker want to do with my systems? If I were able to compromise an
    anonymous system and perhaps get nothing of interest, what would stop me
    from scanning the remote system's sub-net for other ripe pickings? This
    would mean your same DMZ connected and authenticated system is now directly
    vulnerable to the compromised system.

    Is that something that you, your company, or your client is willing to risk?

    Just some things to dwell on I guess.

    Hope my meanderings helped.

    Regards,
    Brandon

    Brandon Fetch
    817-871-4036
    -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape"

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Roger Barbeau [mailto:r_barbeau@videotron.ca]
    Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:04 PM
    To: firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com
    Subject: [fw-wiz] Authenticated VS Anonymous in a secure Zone

    Hi!

    A design question for all of you.

    Let's say that we have two web servers in our DMZ.
    Traffic to the web server 1 is authenticated by the firewall and the
    credential is relayed to the web server 1.
    Traffic to the web server 2 is anonymous.

    What is the security concern about having authenticated traffic and
    anonymous traffic going to the same zone?

    Regards,

    Roger Barbeau
    CCDA, CISSP, MCSE
    Email: rbarbeau@lgs.com

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