Re: [fw-wiz] CIsco PIX vulnerable to TCP RST DOS attacks
From: Mikael Olsson (mikael.olsson_at_clavister.com)
Date: 05/05/04
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To: "Ahmed, Balal" <balal.ahmed@capgemini.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:01:27 +0200
"Ahmed, Balal" wrote:
>
> If a PIX, or any other firewall/device for that matter, is performing
> NAPT/Hide NAT/PAT/NAT then as far as the TCP conversation is concerned is it
> a connection end point or a transit device ?
Conceptually, it is a transit device, however ...
> [...] Having said this, I have seen PIX's teardown
> connections on seeing a RESET-O arrive from the outside. Does this mean that
> the PIX IS susceptible to the TCP RST vulnerability due to the way Cisco
> have implemented NAT?
It used to immediately tear down connections immediately upon receiving
any RST with matching IPs and ports. This was changed back in 2000:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/pixtcpreset-pub.shtml
where they verify the sequence number of the RST.
However, as far as I know (though note that I'm in no way a
cisco/pix expert) they'd still tear down the connection immediately
upon receiving a RST, so this would still make the NAPT implementation
vulnerable to a sequence sweep of RSTs. Assuming you know the
source port, that is.
HOWEVER, predicting the source port on a busy NAPT is no fun - you go
from ~32K packets * a few ports to try to ~32K packets * 64K ports [1].
This is quite a lot of packets. Just trying all of them in a meaningful
time would mean a packet rate comparable to an all-out DDoS, which is
an attack in and of itself - and a much more "meaningful" one, at that.
I still believe that the #1 impact of this vulnerability, as seen in an
Internet-wide perspective, is killing BGP sessions in core routers.
Do it a few times to trigger route flap detection, and you'll isolate
large chunks of the net from eachother, or, worst case, from the rest
of the Internet.
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