RE: [fw-wiz] monitoring and controlling servers on internet segme nt

From: Yinal Ozkan (Yinal.Ozkan_at_Integralis.Com)
Date: 05/04/04

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    To: 'Shimon Silberschlag' <>,
    Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 09:19:11 -0400

    Hi Shimon,
    That is why you have DMZs. Yes it is not a good idea to not to open inbound
    traffic. Actually it is not good to open any traffic from outside. On the
    other hand, an intermediary server on the untrusted network is vulnerable as
    other hosts.

    A better approach is the locate the intermediary server on a different DMZ
    protected by the firewall. This setup will protect the intermediary from any
    exploit that does not use the monitoring traffic (e.g. sasser) And also, if
    this host is ever compromised (which is possible) after internet hosts, your
    trusted network will be behind the firewall.

    - yinal

    Yinal OZKAN


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Shimon Silberschlag []
    Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 5:53 AM
    Subject: [fw-wiz] monitoring and controlling servers on internet segment

    Lets say that a client have various servers on an internet segment, which is
    separated from the internal network with a firewall.
    The client wants to have an agent reporting various events back to the
    management center, which is on the internal net. The protocol in use uses
    fixed ports, and is encrypted with mutual authentication between machines.
    The client does not want to open up all servers to the internal net, so he
    puts an intermediary server on the internet segment, which gets the reports
    from all internet servers, and pushes them to the management center on the
    inside. There is no option to poll the intermediary.
    The only other option is to install a separate management center for the
    internet segment, with the associated costs in purchase and maintenance.

    Would using such a setup (the intermediary one) constitute good, bad or best

    Shimon Silberschlag


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