RE: [fw-wiz] You'll never get fired for recommending IBM - sorry - Microsoft

From: Marcus J. Ranum (mjr_at_ranum.com)
Date: 12/17/03

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    To: MHawkins@TULLIB.COM, breno@gamebox.net
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:38:24 -0500

    MHawkins@TULLIB.COM wrote:
    [...] you don't care one hoot about my opinions apart from declaring
    >analogies invalid due to their not proof of anything. Something I already
    >know thanks.

    Not at all!! Your opinions are extremely important to me!! I was
    just wrestling with the conflicting goals of not repeating myself
    and beating a dead horse versus the off chance that you were
    a sensitive guy and would misinterpret my response as not
    treating your opinions in accordance with their importance. I
    didn't mean to hurt your feelings, and I am very sorry if you
    felt dismissed or downplayed.

    >I use one analogy and the rest of my opinion is ignored.

    Of course it wasn't! Thousands of people (including me!)
    read it. I just didn't _respond_ to _that_ _part_. It's OK. We
    didn't ignore you.

    >Funny, that seems to be what happened to the last bunch of people who tried
    >using the word monoculture.

    We didn't ignore them, either!! They got their 15 minutes of
    fame!! More like they got a few weeks of fame. Dan Geer is
    going to be giving conference keynote speeches for at least
    a year based on the strength of the paper, his firing, and the
    attention it got him. I think that's great! Perhaps we'd have
    paid more overt attention to your posting if it had gotten
    you fired, too. ;)

    And I really don't think people _are_ ignoring "monoculture"
    arguments. Our own FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (embodied in
    the guise of the National Science Foundation) just awarded a
    $750,000 grant to CMU and University of New Mexico to
    study "monocultures" and diversity in computing.

    So don't worry - there's still lots of traction in that particular
    hype-meme.

    mjr.

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