Re: [fw-wiz] OT: Av and Gartner...
From: Dave Piscitello (dave_at_corecom.com)
To: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:43:24 -0400
At 11:37 PM 7/30/2003 -0400, Marcus J Ranum wrote:
>John Keeton wrote:
> >Also, anyone have any experiance with Garner regarding security items?
>You virtually never see anyone on thier stupid
>magic quadrant who is not a Gartner research customer or a
Perhaps coincidence, but the directory hierarchy at Gartner.com seems to
corroborate Marcus' claim:
Save the visit to the hyperlink: Neoteris is in the magic quadrant.
Still, I'm curious...
Has anyone on the list ever revisited one of Gartner's magic quadrants
several years later to see whether their predictions of who is able to
execute and who has the most complete vision were accurate?
>Does Gartner test technology? No. What do they actually
>base their "recommendations" on?
Marcus, all you have to do is *read* their disclaimer:
"...The information contained herein has been obtained from sources
believed to be reliable. Gartner disclaims all warranties as to the
accuracy, completeness or adequacy of such information. Gartner shall have
no liability for errors, omissions or inadequacies in the information
contained herein or for interpretations thereof. The reader assumes sole
responsibility for the selection of these materials to achieve its intended
results. The opinions expressed herein are subject to change without notice."
As security professionals, we all know the value of "sources believed to be
reliable". Isn't this the fundamental precept for all authentication
BTW, the domain name magicquadrantssuck.com is available...
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