Re: [fw-wiz] Linux Firewall on CD

From: Marcus J. Ranum (mjr_at_ranum.com)
Date: 07/12/03

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    To: Paul Robertson <proberts@patriot.net>, james mcdermott <bklynjames@hotmail.com>
    Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:11:24 -0400
    
    

    Paul Robertson wrote:
    >Usually, CD bootable systems use
    >a RAM Disk- so an attacker can easily keep things in memory, and the only
    >thing you really gain is disinfection with a reboot- however you're still
    >vulnerable to the original attack, so the gain from running off a CD is
    >pretty negligable from a security perspective.

    Depends on how it's done, really. The CD bootable systems I used
    to build chrooted off the RAM disk onto the CD image, so there was
    no RAM disk to mess with, and there weren't any device nodes except
    for the bare minimum since the device nodes needed to mount the
    CD and hard disk were back in the RAM disk behind the chroot. If you
    mount the hard disk noexec, and the CD image isn't writeable, it's
    pretty hard to screw around with the system. Of course, one can
    always conjure up a scenario involving an infinitely clever attacker
    exploiting an infinite number of design flaws so in theory no firewall
    will ever be secure.

    mjr.

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