Re: [fw-wiz] VA vs PT tool

From: Ivan Arce (ivan.arce_at_corest.com)
Date: 06/20/03

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    To: Gregory Austin <greg@austinconsulting.com>
    Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:30:55 -0300
    
    

    I could not resist and jumped in...

    ok, so i work for the company that sells CORE IMPACT but i will
    try to keep this as objective as possible. However, my opinions are not
    unbiased.

    CORE IMPACT does exactly what you ask for, it ships with real
    exploits (developed in-house, NOT a collection of publicly available
    proof of concept code hacked together from mailing lists and archives), that
    actually compromise systems and install agents on them by exploiting their
    vulnerabilities, the user can the take advantage of the deployed agents to
    elevate privileges in compromised hosts or penetrate further into the target
    network, the substatial and troublesome part of any penetration test.

    the infosecurity magazine review of the product is not especially good,
    but most of the shortcomings pointed out in the article steem from its
    network mapping and os fingerprinting capabilities.
    That is certainly a necessary part of any PT and the product covers it
    lightly according to infosecmag. but the real strengths and its unique-ness
    are more apparent with the exploitation, attack and privilege escalation and
    reporting and cleanup capabilities.

    -ivan

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    Gregory Austin wrote:
    > Simon,
    > 
    >      You may want to take a look at the latest Information Security 
    > magazine (June).  There is an article about a product called CORE IMPACT 
    > that purports to do what you're looking for.  I personally have no 
    > experience with the product, and it didn't get an especially good review 
    > from the magazine, but if you're interested you can find the article 
    > on-line at:
    > 
    >      http://www.infosecuritymag.com/2003/jun/testcenter.shtml
    > 
    > Greg
    > 
    > 
    >> However, a VA tool is limited, in that it only stops at the 
    >> vulnerability.
    >>
    >> I'm looking at a Pen Test tool that not only does the VA functionality 
    >> but
    >> also exploit the vulnerability thus
    >> defining it as a real THREAT and not just a vulnerability.
    >>
    >> Is there a widely accepted tool on the market right now ?
    >>
    >>
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > ==============================
    > Greg is, among other things,  a moron.
    > Anything he has said above is solely his
    > own opinion, not that of his employer.
    > ==============================
    > 
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