RE: [fw-wiz] Re: SMTP Proxies and Application Proxies for Lotus

From: Joseph Steinberg (Joseph_at_whale-com.com)
Date: 06/18/03

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:40:04 -0400
    
    

    Thank you for the compliments on the article.

    Vis-à-vis the Air Gap platform -- rather than repeat the same discussion
    that we all had several years ago -- let's simply agree that if you have a
    secure hardware architecture (to deal with level 2-4 attacks) and you add
    Lotus-optimized application-filtering to prevent application-level attacks
    by hackers and worms, browser-side security (to prevent leakage of data on
    the user's access device), offload SSL from the Lotus servers to a
    centralized appliance, and overlay strong authentication, you will gain a
    much more secure platform for remote access to Lotus servers than by simply
    putting a reverse proxy or generic so-called "SSL VPN" in place.

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    Message: 4
    Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:35:31 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Paul Robertson <proberts@patriot.net>
    To: Ben Nagy <ben@iagu.net>
    Cc: firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com
    Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] Re: SMTP Proxies and Application Proxies for Lotus
     Domino

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Ben Nagy wrote:

    > Actually, though, the article linked from that page (including a snazzy
    > picture of Mr Steinberg) "Secure Remote Access to Domino" is a very good
    > overview, if you cover your ears and go 'la la la la' when you get to the
    > 'airgap' bits.

    I knew that phrase would cause problems, but since he directly met the
    criteria of the original query, I let the message through- I'm going to
    *not* let the "airgap" argument flare up (unless Mr. Steinberg *wants* to
    take on all-comers, in which case he's entitled to the deathmatch that
    ensues, I *know* there's a line, and I'll be standing in it.)

    > solution that does nothing but simple SMTP relay. Jeff - clearly you know
    > you should use a stripped open source box running qmail or postfix. Why
    not
    > pay a local place to paint something red? ;)

    Some folks just can't deal with Open Source- they can get a commercial
    Linux thing, or they can call Postfix the "IBM Secure Internet Mailer,"
    which is my "FTP takes too many ports" for mail systems ;)

    Paul
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