Re: [fw-wiz] Where do firewall Admins Sit in An Company

From: Tony Miedaner (miedaner_at_twcny.rr.com)
Date: 06/06/03

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    To: "R. DuFresne" <dufresne@sysinfo.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 07:13:22 -0400

    Thanks for the response,

    What really irks me is that I believe the so called "security mainstream"
    is pushing dotted line reporting Security Management, at least in the
    non-government arena. It is doomed to fail. I have seen over and over
    that security concerns get a low priority in dotted line reporting
    structures and response is horribly slow.

    At 06:15 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, R. DuFresne wrote:
    >On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Tony Miedaner wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Thanks for the response.
    > >
    > > Ahhh...the problem is that if security doesn't know the baseline and
    > > doesn't know the network and the services running on it (keep in mind very
    > > large network) how effective is it.
    > >
    >
    >Which, according to Marcus and a few others I've had conversations with
    >from this and other lists is quite common, many, perhaps far too many,
    >companies lack a clue about what really traverses their network. Thus all
    >the troubles integrating/shimming IDS comfortably into an environment..
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >
    >Ron DuFresne
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