RE: [fw-wiz] Interlopers on the WLAN

From: bmonkman@icsalabs.com
Date: 11/05/02 

From: bmonkman@icsalabs.com
To: pjklist@ekahuna.com, firewall-wizards@icsalabs.com
Date: Tue Nov  5 16:33:01 2002

 
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I think a more important aspect to consider is the ability to recover
financial losses attributed to such a "crime".

While this is probably illegal is it a loss an insurance company
would pony compensation for? I would liken it to leaving your house
or you car unlocked while unattended. If items are removed without
your consent this is clearly a criminal act. However, insurance
companies could/would argue that you are not showing due diligence,
in fact they could argue you were negligent, by allowing access to
your home or vehicle by failing to lock the door. Given this they
probably would refuse to compensate you for your losses.

The question now is, would this hold true to those who rely on known
insecure mechanisms, like WEP, to stop access to the network?

Brian Monkman
Firewall Programs Manager
ICSA Labs
1000 Bent Creek Blvd., Suite 200
Mechanicsburg PA 17050
Phone:717.790.8141 Fax:717.790.8170
www.icsalabs.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip J. Koenig [mailto:pjklist@ekahuna.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:24 AM
> To: firewall-wizards@honor.icsalabs.com
> Subject: [fw-wiz] Interlopers on the WLAN
>
>
> Please forgive if this has been covered before, I'm not reading the
> group daily these days.
>
> Is it reasonable to assume that those who access WLANs without the
> permission of the owner are violating the same cybercrime laws that
> apply to any unauthorized access of a computer network?
>
> Some have recently argued this is not the case if someone doesn't
> "enable the security features", but personally I don't see the
> distinction between this kind of activity and anything normally
> prohibited by laws such as California Penal Code section 502a and
> various other cybercrime laws. It doesn't seem to me that the law
> makes a distinction about whether the network in question was
> secured or not. (what does 'secured' mean anyway?)
>
> TIA,
>
> Phil
>
> --
> Philip J. Koenig
> pjklist@ekahuna.com
> Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New
> Millenium
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