Re: [fw-wiz] VPN concentrators

From: Patrick Darden (darden@armc.org)
Date: 08/26/02


From: Patrick Darden <darden@armc.org>
To: scouser@paradise.net.nz
Date: Mon Aug 26 08:53:01 2002

I don't agree. Putting authenticated and authorized traffic through a
firewall is redundant. IPSEC traffic is trusted traffic. A VPN is an
extension of your network--it is as trusted as any traffic internal to
your network--perhaps more, as it can be completely accounted
for--remember that every packet has a confirmed sip, dip, and payload.

Here is the current best thinking, to my knowledge:

     ds3 to internet
      |
      |
---------------
Bastion Router|
---------------
   | |
   | \
firewall \
   | vpn engine
   | |
==================
internal network |
==================

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On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 scouser@paradise.net.nz wrote:
> Off topic slightly, sorry.
> 
> Current best thinking is to terminate VPN tunnels inside an external firewall on
> a DMZ, then traffic can be passed back through this or another firewall before
> entering the internal network.
> 
> Complexity can lead to vulnerabilities, so what are peoples thoughts on
> termination of vpn tunnels on the firewall itself? What are the  pros and cons
> as  you see them?
> 
> thanks in advance 
> James
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