Re: [fw-wiz] concerning ~el8 / project mayhem

From: Anton A. Chuvakin (anton@chuvakin.org)
Date: 08/21/02 

From: "Anton A. Chuvakin" <anton@chuvakin.org>
To: "Paul D. Robertson" <proberts@patriot.net>
Date: Wed Aug 21 10:41:00 2002

Hi Paul and all,

I know I am late for the thread, but here goes:

>I think the biggest trouble with the current scenerio is that many, many
>customers don't understand that you don't *need* the attack tools to mount
>an effective defense, nor to tell what's wrong with the current one. I
>think even vulnerability scanners are mostly a waste of time.
Hmm, that really doesn't sit well with me. As I understand, you are
advocating good security design over testing? But what about human errors
in the above "good design"? Admittedly, no one can eliminate all of them,
thus scanners/exploit tools will server as a final semi-real-world test of
how "good" the above design really is.

Best, 

-- 
  Anton A. Chuvakin, Ph.D., GCIA
     http://www.chuvakin.org
   http://www.info-secure.org

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