Re: [fw-wiz] Sourceforge sending out passwords in the clear.

From: R. DuFresne (
Date: 08/02/02

From: "R. DuFresne" <>
To: Paul Robertson <>
Date: Fri Aug  2 14:23:01 2002

On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Paul Robertson wrote:


> If you have my mailman password, you can unsubscribe me from the list
> (should be obvious when I stop receiving messages,) set me to digest, set
> me to nomail, and maybe a handful of other things[1].
> Granted, you could MITM my mailing list traffic and if I wasn't checking
> headers, you'd probably get me- but overall, that's not a huge risk (it
> sends list manager passwords too- a much higher risk, though that only
> happens at list creation and is easy to mitigate by not making the list live or
> populating it until after the password is changed.)


> You'd be surprised at the administrative stuff I deal with now, and this
> list holds a very high ratio of clueons.

Many mailman list do this monthly send of the passwords and account info,
as well as some including chater info for the lists these days since so
many are moving over to mailman. The Firewalls list does so monthly,
FULL-Disclosure does also. So far I do not recall any of the security
focus lists doing so, we read a number of those. but, for those lists
that do, we have not encountered any problems. I've seen instances of
users with full mail box notices or address no longer vaild messages get
dropped from the Firewalls list due to one of the list readers there
forging unsubscribes, so perhaps the password infoo is not always


Ron DuFresne

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